Obviously graffiti is a graphic art form, but it extends into the world of fashion in a lot of ways. Whether it was North Faces back then or Arc’teryx jackets now. I feel like Awake has really stepped up their cut and sew game in the past couple years. Does that culture ever inform your own designs in that realm?
I would say the spirit of graffiti does. It’s rebellious. It’s punk and it’s hip-hop. It’s essentially New York. My formative years, respectfully, are like the best years of New York City. Now, I think every generation thinks that their years are the best years of New York City. But if you think about what was happening in graffiti, art, music, and pop culture from ‘90 to ‘99, I don’t know man. I look around here at ComplexCon and I still see the influence of the early ‘90s. That, to me, is a big trip. I think working in the present is learning how to not be overly nostalgic. It’s about figuring out how to make those dots connect and make it feel contemporary and new. I think that that’s the real trick.
As someone who’s worked within this space for so long, how do you think fashion’s appetite for graffiti has evolved? I mean to put this more into perspective, Kunle just exhibited his own official Louis Vuitton trunk a couple weeks ago. I personally feel like that wouldn’t have been conceivable 10 years ago.
Rest in peace, Virgil. That was his vision, to be the conduit for all the things that influenced him. It’s unfortunate that there’s a lack of people like me in this space who have the same kind of DNA at this point. It doesn’t matter if you grew up in Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, or Houston. If you have a love for this, which is streetwear, it encompasses and embodies a lot. Skate, graffiti, hip-hop, and punk rock.
If you’re a student of this, it’s obviously all going to make sense to you. So for me, it’s asking myself how to do something a little different at this point. How do you push yourself as a designer? How do you push yourself as a kid that’s collecting all this shit? Don’t be lazy. If you look around today, a lot of the things look the same. I just have an appreciation for not just fashion, but how one tries to be unique within this space.
Speaking about uniqueness, I feel like your brand and others like Denim Tears have really shifted the conversation around what streetwear could be. While streetwear has always been about putting dope creatives on, it seems to be more than just product for brands like yours. It’s about uplifting communities and making a larger impact within this space. Do you feel like there’s a larger push for that sort of ethos in the industry as a whole? Or are not many brands moving like that?
Not to bring up Virgil again, but before he passed away, he called us the “Native Tongues of streetwear.” Myself, Chris Gibbs over at Union LA, Tremaine [Emory] at Denim Tears, and No Vacancy Inn being these like-minded brands that know it’s not all about the commercialism of this industry. It’s about how we inspire the next generation. That’s what I was talking about to bring change and normalcy in what we do. That’s what makes me most proud about the work I’ve done in the last six years. It’s bringing this level of consciousness and thinking about community as the new norm in streetwear.
You can have the fuckery. I feel like we’re able to bring balance to that. It’s not all about flipping clothes or flipping sneakers. I’m going to make a T-shirt, but how can I make a difference with this T-shirt? How can I use this T-shirt to voice an opinion or bring light to a cause that I really believe in? You don’t have to be 44 years old to do that. You could be 14 years old, be printing your own T-shirt in your garage, and voice that.
The Ojas collab and Verdy stuff is dope. But one collab here that really intrigues me is Primer Rebelde De America. I’ve seen this brand bubbling in NYC. What can you tell me about it?
The guy behind that is Victor [Vegas] and I believe he was literally my first intern four or five years ago. That’s just a proud moment to see him come in. He literally was once sweeping our office floor and throwing the trash out. Through osmosis, from just hanging around me and the designers, he was inspired to start his own thing. Once again, Awake for me, the whole point is to have a platform for kids like Vegas. It’s not about how big is your brand or how many followers are fucking with what you’re doing. If I really believe in your vision and your ideas, let’s do something together.
Can you share anything about the upcoming New York City flagship opening on 62 Orchard and why you wanted to open it there?
Well, it’s going to be dope. I’ll tell you that right now. I can’t wait. Why I wanted to open up a store is because we need a community center right now. I feel like there’s a lack of spaces where a kid like me, or a kid from deep Queens, deep Bronx, or Brooklyn, can just hang out and chill. A place that feels like home. You could be weird, you could be yourself, and you’re not just doing it for the Gram. We needed to build a home for locals. More importantly, it gets us off Instagram by giving our customers a physical experience of what Awake is and what our world is.
Orchard Street is also popping right now, man. Being able to open up there is legendary. I remember I used to go down there to buy my suits for communion and school. There’s also a rich history of commerce and retail there heavily tied to an immigrant story that’s on par with our own as a brand.
What are your goals for 2023?
To just keep making cool shit, man. That’s all. I try not to get too ahead of myself. We got some cool shit coming up next year with the store opening up. Our next Carhartt collab’s about to pop off. Other than that, it’s to just keep supporting the community by keeping our feet on the ground and pushing forward.
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